Leopard feature #301?

So, what’s this? Some sort of attempt to make Windows users more comfortable switching to OS X?

Mac OS X 10.5: “Blue screen” appears after installing Leopard and restarting

Really, after the buildup for Leopard and an unbelievable level of smugness from Cupertino, this seems like it was a foregone conclusion.

17 thoughts on “Leopard feature #301?

  1. No, that’s what happend if you use unsupported app-enhancer. Or if you use a mouse from a company like let’s say Logitech which installs an unsupported app-enhancer without even telling. John Gruber has the details

    http://daringfireball.net/2007/10/blue_in_the_face

    Quote:

    “It’s hard to see what more Apple could do to discourage the installation of software in /System/. Unsanity and Logitech are responsible for these APE installations that render Leopard upgrades unbootable, but it’s Apple that’s getting the bad press and the “I’m stuck at a blue screen” support calls.”

  2. @Giesbert Doesn’t that hold true from windows too ? Most of the time the blame is put on MS when it usually hardware issue from third party vendors. But unlike windows Apple just supports its own hardware.

  3. @ Giesbert

    The article Ed links to talks about Apple’s poor taste in representing Windows machines with an old decrepit monitor displaying a kernel panic. Apple says their OS is more stable and less prone to crashes than Windows. This is just misinformation because OS X faces similar problems Windows does. If some company decides to use unsupported methods there is nothing Apple can do about it. Apple has minimized this by limiting the hardware configuration but people can still plug in other peripherals and install software. I’m not saying Apple is at fault for the blue screen but they are at fault for putting such a false statement in their OS and pretending their OS is different.

  4. The BSOD shown in Leopard’s Cover Flow when browsing network computers is amusing. Get a sense of humour. Unfortunately Windows users suffer from the PC User’s Inferiority Complex. Also amusing.

  5. Diego, straight from the article:

    “Now, I’m all for a little sense of humor in the world of technology. But the image here deliberately uses an aged-looking monitor and a crashed computer as the illustration of your other computers. The disdain here isn’t for the unfortunate unwashed who have to suffer through Windows because they’re so clueless — it’s a snide shot at the other computers you own, or of your family’s other machines around the house, or of the computers of the peers you work with. In short, the derision is likely aimed at people who care a hell of a lot more about you and your boundless Mac-enhanced creativity than, say, the OS X team does.

    And all that is assuming the image is even accurate. […] That’s the heart of the issue — it’s not like the Mac is completely stable; It’s got its share of crashes just like every other operating system.”

    Basically “Arrogance is ugly.”

    This is from a guy who’s main laptop is a Mac.

  6. Gruber has updated his post:

    “There are, on Apple’s discussion boards, reports of botched Leopard upgrades that do not involve the presence of any version of APE. However, I have yet to see a set of reproducible steps implicating anything specific as a culprit other than APE. One informed reader — who works as a Mac troubleshooting technician — has witnessed at least two “blue screen” Leopard upgrades on which no version of APE was present, and suspects the culprit in both cases to be latent hard disk problems.”

  7. Many years ago American won the cold war over Russia.
    Many years ago Windows won the computer war over the Mac.

    An arrogant U.S. waged a war in Iraq hurting our world image.
    An over confident Microsoft, released Windows Vista.

    The U.S. feels a need to defend itself by putting missiles in Poland.
    Ed Bott is pointing out fun flaws in Apples new OS Leopard.

    This is a clear indication to me, the Mac vs. Windows war is officially back. 🙂

  8. Bill, I’m not the one who wrote the knowledge base article that actually uses the words “blue screen” to define an Apple related issue.

    Soviet Union? Iraq? You’ve officially jumped the shark.

  9. Yea, I really need to remember never to post comments before I’m fully awake.

    I agree the whole blue screen reference is funnier than when Apple blamed their security flaw in Quicktime on Windows for allowing them to create bad code.

  10. I don’t hate Mac or Windows, but I hate the zealotry that takes place on both ends.

    I agree that there is a “smugness” in Cupertino…no doubt about it, and I think it is ill-deserved since most of their perceived “reliability” comes from the lack of third-party adaptability that Windows has enjoyed for years.

    That said… I think that Mac is now starting to see both the benefit and the sting of third-party software. Windows runs millions of different programs and probably 90% of the problems are caused by incompatible or poorly written software–why should Mac users be immune to this?

    I run Vista and my g/f runs Tiger, neither of us is all that impressed w/ Leopard. I think most of the “features” that Leopard has are remade Windows XP Powertoys (Desktop Manager?) and Vista tools.

    Time Machine isn’t very impressive…. Vista’s “Ghost-like” backup in the Ultimate edition impressed me more.

  11. John makes a good point: Apple is selling a lifestyle, not just a computer, with iPods and iPhones on top of Leopard. Join in and be part of “the club,” an insider, on of us. Don’t join and we’ll make fun of you, whether it’s accurate or not.

    I can’t remember the last time I got a blue screen in Windows. Then again, I don’t run too much crappy third-party software anymore either.

  12. John and Zaine are right in what they say. It’s not the lifestyle that is important it’s getting the job done that matters. I don’t really care what the next door neighbor has, lifestyle or function. In the end I know which one I would prefer. J.B.

  13. @Zaine

    I’ve read comments like that before and quite frankly it’s right on target. For the life of me I think the press gets excited at any chance they can to boost Apple’s image. Leopard looks nice and some of the features are great, but I find I can do the same thing (dare I say, better) on my Vista Ultimate machine yet practically all publications I read seem like they are in the business of downing legitimate strides that Vista makes and propping up OS X for doing similar things, not all of which are done better mind you.

    My plea to tech journalism is be honest with yourself and give credit where credit is due not just to Apple.

  14. The icon is even a Windows 98 blue screen. As configured by default, Windows XP doesn’t even show the blue screen, it just reboots. Apple probably couldn’t get it to happen 😉

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